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I currently work at a hospital where an older pulmonary MD orders ultrasonic nebs in line with a small volume nebulizer/IPPB's. I find this practice(in my opinion) to be totally worthless. If it was on for a longer period maybe, but for 10"-15" every 4hrs+-. I've looked for studies on this practice and can't find anything. If anyone else has an opinion or information please pass let me know.

GJ,RRT


Chris Hanson RN, RRT-NPS, CPFT, AE-C
ER Registered Nurse
Grand Junction, Colorado
 
Posts: 66 | Location: Grand junction, colorado | Registered: August 21, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Sir, I do have an opinion..

I do agree with you. The technology and the way it is prescribed... I do not think that your patient will get anythnig good with it.

If you want to humidify the patient airway, I still think that a good Fisher-Paykel device will do the job (or any other good company; in my area, most hospitals use F-P techno).

Has far as IPPB's are concerne, well ... we (in the area) think that the 1980' are long past. A good respiratory physiotherapy will do just the same (if you have the staff and if you teach it well).

ps: sory for my way of saying things, English is not my natve tongue...

ps 2: the area: Québec province, canada
 
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Are you giving medications via small volume neb and also mixing this with USN humidity?

If so....

I recall studies or abstracts showing that this actually will decrease the medication delivery. The particle size gets bumped up and deposition isn't as good. I remember a while back at an AARC conference a group of RT's from Vancouver showed how placing a neb inline with a cool mist (i.e. to trache collar) basically made it so you might as well just dump out the bronchodilator. I'm not sure if this was ever published.
 
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Jeff,
The answer to your question is yes. If you know of any studies or abstracts i would be grateful. This also supports my statement with regards to residents/interns/attendings and pulmonary MD's under the ABG DRAWS topic. A good RT will make more appropriate decisions with regards to respiratory then any other discipline.


Chris Hanson RN, RRT-NPS, CPFT, AE-C
ER Registered Nurse
Grand Junction, Colorado
 
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JeffWhitnack wrote:
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Are you giving medications via small volume neb and also mixing this with USN humidity?


I am not familiar with the term: USN humidity ( could transalte it and after anser your question!! (I don't know if that is the anser, but we give most of our medication via Puffers with spacers...)
 
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