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Hi-Lo evac ETT from Malliknkrodt

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December 14, 2002, 12:38 PM
Spm
Hi-Lo evac ETT from Malliknkrodt
Has anyone had experience with the Hi-Lo evac ETT from Mallinkrodt? I won't tell you what I think of them just yet but, our physicians are pushing hard to institute them without an evaluation period. I specifically need to know if they have been successfully used according to the manufacturers recommendations or according to the one study we found from Barcelona Spain where they did not adhere to the manufacturers recommendations. Thanks in advance.two thumbs uptwo thumbs downdon't waste your timewhat is a Hi-Lo evac tube?
January 16, 2003, 11:57 AM
Acid Base
We havent used them yet, but I'm starting to see many articles out there suggesting that fluid accumulating above the cuff is a cause of VAP.
January 18, 2003, 02:45 AM
JeffWhitnack
I think that studies (and common sense) shows that they do reduce the VAP rate. The problem is that the clinicians have to keep the port clear'd and also do other things like keep HOB up, cuff pressures AT LEAST 20cwp (none of this minimal leak, better called maximal drip, technique).

Also I find it humorous when people say they can really pick and choose whom they will use them on. You never know which patient will end up on a vent the longest.

I have some protocols for Hi-Lo Evac use I can email to you

whitnack@pacbell.net
August 16, 2005, 01:16 PM
<ENRICO>
Howdy ,fellow resp.person
I've been in the business for 25 years and I'm looking for some info/experiances/feedback with the e-vac tubes.The particulars ;on what is done when thick secretions block the evacuation port,troubleshooting tricks...
August 17, 2005, 02:52 PM
<FIN>
In Canada a recent nationwide VAP initiative made recomendations based on a multicenter study. Some of the obvious recommendations were to reduce breaking the circuit, using inline suction, disposable circuits, inline med tx, and one other was the use of OETT which would allow for hypopharyngeal suction. I have personally not seen them used at our institution and the only feedback I have received is that they clogg alot furthermore because of the added expense it is not the first tube people reach for. They do however work but havent really caught on yet near as I can tell.
August 22, 2005, 12:31 PM
CdnRT
Interesting to note that the center(s) that compiled the data (by using the HiLo tubes) regarding the Canadian guidelines for VAP prevention are presently not using these tubes (quote as of summer 2004).

CdnRT
August 29, 2005, 11:28 AM
<OK RT>
I have been using the Hi-Lo ETT only for over two year now. If they need a tube or if they come in the ED with a standard we switch it out. our only VAP's in the past 2 years are on patients that have needed a trach and it was after the trach was placed that the acquired the VAP.